This week on Season 2, Episode 7 of the Evolution of Medicine, we take a deeper and more personal dive into immune resilience and the COVID vaccines, a topic that, five years later, continues to shape our work, our patients, and our health system.
In the News: A UK Decision That Should Concern Everyone
A recent report from the UK announced that public health authorities will not be releasing records that could clarify whether the COVID vaccines were associated with the rise in excess deaths.
Their stated reason:
It might create privacy issues and emotional distress for grieving families.
As someone who lost my mother three months after her COVID vaccination in the UK in June 2021, I want to be extremely clear:
There is nothing more important to bereaved families than the truth.
Understanding what happened is not traumatic, it is healing, clarifying, and necessary for public trust.
I share a brief personal reflection in the episode, not to stoke controversy, but to highlight the human cost of opacity and why functional medicine practitioners must continue to be leaders in evidence-based immune resilience.
Clinical Deep Dive: The Most Important COVID Talk You’ve Never Seen
In the clinical corner, we pivot to what I believe was a critical education session made early in the pandemic:
Dr. Ari Vodjii’s April 16, 2020 lecture on immune resilience.
It outlined, early and brilliantly, the patterns of immune dysregulation that would go on to shape the entire COVID era.
And yet… we didn’t listen.
In the episode, we break down one pivotal slide that every practitioner needs to know cold—a framework that explains:
- how host resilience determines patient outcomes
- how metabolic fragility and chronic inflammation amplify viral severity
This alone is worth the listen.
James Maskell:
I want to take you to an article that I think is actually terrifying and, you know, speaks to the sort of dystopian kind of a world that we’re living in. I’ll just say I’m a bereaved relative. My mother died in June of 2021 within three months of having the vaccine. I’m going to tell you how I feel about it. I want the truth. I know friends of mine, who are doctors, were thinking about leaving the state because they couldn’t post on social media.
They were, you know, couldn’t lose their license. Oh, my God, this is the biggest topic of all time. Hello and welcome back to the evolution of medicine podcast. This is season two, Episode Seven. I’m really excited to be back with you again. We got so many interesting comments and feedback from last week’s episode. It was a totally different type of a show because we were doing it around that one faux infomercial.
And apparently a lot of you have seen it, and many of you felt similarly to I have just the sort of contrasting emotions of that show. So if you haven’t gone and watched that, go back and check it out. You’ll see AI versions of Sanjay Gupta and Anderson Cooper telling you about reversing cognitive decline. It’s very interesting, and is a good insight into where we’re going next as a society with AI and video and all these kind of things.
But I am not AI. I’m here with you. I am in Northern California. My name is James maskel, and I’m your host, and today we are going to do as ever. We’re going to look at news, and we’re going to look at clinical corner, and then we are going to look at some innovations as well along the way. So let’s jump right into it. I want to take you to an article that I think is actually terrifying and, you know, speaks to the sort of dystopian kind of a world that we’re living in.
And I saw this. It was shared on social media, and I just wanted to check on it. So this is from The Daily Telegraph. This is talking about the covid vaccines and their effect in the UK. And this is something that obviously still looms pretty large in our world. And you will see through this. Why this still looms large in our world? There is still a great deal of division as to, were the covid vaccines a net benefit for anyone, right?
Were they beneficial for older people, and did they keep them out of hospitals? Were they beneficial for younger people? And what does the rest of the bell curve look like? I want to bring this topic up because this is, you know, happening recently. And also, there’s just some elements in here that I think we need to look at, because this is still affecting the health care that’s happening, you know, five years after covid and four years after the rollout.
It was actually this time, five years ago, when they announced that the covid vaccine was coming out. And you may have seen that that sign, which showed, you know, the contrasting fortunes of, let’s say, zoom and Delta Airlines on that day, because it was great news, big news, November 2020 that there was going to be a vaccine on its way, and that it was safe and effective. So here we are five years later. This is the telegraph 2025, the title is government withholding data that may link covid jabs to excess deaths.
UK HSA argued that releasing figures would lead to distress or anger of bereaved relatives if connection were discovered. I’ll just say I’m a bereaved relative. My mother died in June of 2021, within three months of having the vaccine. I don’t think it was the only cause. There was a lot of other stuff going on. She was 85 years old. She was by herself, you know, isolated into a nursing home for the whole of 2020 so bereave relative, right here, I’m going to tell you how I feel about it.
Public Health watchdog has been accused of a cover up after refusing to publish data that could link the code vaccine to excess deaths. The UK health security agency, UK HSA argued that releasing the data would lead to distress or anger bereaved relatives if the link were to be discovered. Public health officials also argued that publishing the data risks damaging the well being and mental health of the families and friends of people who died.
I mean, I’ll just tell you for a fact, like, I want the truth. I think that the mental health of everyone being lied to, you know, for five years is one of the reasons why we have an absolute crisis. So I just want the truth if I’d like to know if that was a trend across society. And you know, my mental health will only get better from knowing whether that was true or not. So in a letter to UK, HSA, the Department of Health and MPs and peers said that potentially critical data which mapped the date of people’s covid vaccine to the date of their deaths had been released to pharmaceutical companies, but not put into the public domain.
That kind of tells you everything about where the priorities of the public you know where people who work for the government are if they give it to the pharmaceutical companies who created the assets, who created the vaccines, that seems like a massive signal that they are not working in the interest of the public, they argue that data should be released on the same anonymized basis that was shared with pharmaceutical groups, and there seems to be no credible reason why that should not be done. Immediately agreed. As for them, a campaign group requests.
To that UK HSA released the data under Freedom of Information laws, but the agency refused, making a number of different arguments, including that published the data could lead to misinformation and that would have an adverse impact on vaccine uptake. Now I want to talk about the word misinformation for a moment, because, you know, the covid pandemic gave us a lot of new concepts that were had to be put out there in order to help people understand the world and what is misinformation?
So misinformation is false and inaccurate information that is spread by mistake. There’s no cause to no intent to cause harm the person that believes it to be true, it’s false and accidentally sharing an incorrect date for a local event that would be an example of misinformation. So I’m really here, but they invented a new thing in the pandemic called mal information, which is genuine, factual information that is shared with the intent to cause harm, often by taking it out of context or moving private information into public sphere.
I think they’re saying it’s more likely that it would cause mal information, not misinformation. Because ultimately, if I find out that the majority you know that there was a significant increase in excess deaths, you know, and that those were happening in line with the rollout of the jabs, I would want to know that one of the big things that happened in America was the way that they counted it, where they said you were technically unvaccinated until day 14, and day 14 after you receive the vaccine. And why is that a big problem?
Because if you look at the historical VAERS database, you see that the vast majority of people who have reactions to vaccines is in day 012, or three. So all those people would have been counted in the unvaccinated. So this is the information that we’ve kind of been waiting for, and it’s kind of a big deal, because I think a lot of people lost a lot of trust and are never going to get it back unless this is answered.
Because if you’ve been paying attention to excess deaths, you know that something is causing a lot more deaths than are normal at this moment, so there are excess deaths. UK, HSA also claimed there risk of individuals being identified, despite the request being made for anonymized data set, and after two year battle, the Information Commissioner ruled in the UK HSA favor backing its refusal to publish the data reform UK is committed to a public inquiry into excess deaths and covid vaccine harms.
Richard Tice, party’s deputy leader said, we know there was concerned about excess deaths, which is why we called for an inquiry instead. Unelected quango ukhsa is involved in a scandalous cover up of how and why people are dying. This is totally unacceptable, and the Health Secretary must overrule them, if we are not prepared to learn the lessons about why people are dying, what sort of society we and I think this is a good place to end it.
And it is wondering, what kind of society are we? You know, one of the things that I’ve seen, you know, I listened to other podcasts. I listened to, like the dark horse podcast, Brett and Heather talk pretty consistently about the fact that we haven’t really learned any lessons from the pandemic. And it was such a big deal we should have learned a lot of lessons from the pandemic, and yet here we are still wondering whether the public can handle the truth. You can handle the truth?
Well, I think we probably can handle the truth because ultimately, we want to make good decisions for ourselves and our family, and as long as we’re not able to access the truth, that is going to be very hard to do. There’s other stuff in this article that is relevant, they talk about an infected blood scandal, which you know, was a previous example of where this kind of thing came up again. And the UK HSA spokesman said protecting patient confidentiality is of critical importance.
Releasing this data prevents a real possibility of use to identify individuals which could result in significant distress, not more distress than them dying two days after the covid vaccine, right? That’s much more distressing, and so we need to contextualize the distress here. And, you know, I’m pretty concerned about this, but I think that hopefully we should get some of this information, or this information will continue to coming out, because there’s freedom of information requests.
We’ve also seen, you know, lots of organizations trying to get their hands on this information, because if you look out at the world, there are significant numbers of excess deaths that are unaccounted for and correlate with the rollout of the mRNA jobs. And so ultimately, you know, truth and reconciliation is the key thing here. You know, I grew up in South Africa, apartheid South Africa, and the process that was gone through in order to create some sort of harmony, to allow some sort of rainbow nation to emerge under the Mandela government, with truth and reconciliation.
You cannot have reconciliation without truth. We need to understand what the net net was on this rollout and what worked. You know, ultimately, you still see headlines flying around. It’s all one the other day saying that you know that having the vaccine improved your chances if you are having cancer. And then I’ve seen sort of that debunked, and there’s just like we’re living in this post. Most truth environment where ultimately it’s hard to know exactly what’s going on, and there are layers and layers of people who clearly whose job it is to keep this sort of information from the public.
So this is a problem now I want to be in solution oriented, because I want to get actually back to now our clinical corner, and get back to something that is super frustrating about the last decade, or the last five years that we’ve been living in. I think that there was so much potential for the functional medicine movement, the lifestyle medicine movement and big organizations to use the pandemic as an opportunity to solve the exact problems that are facing all of us right now. Chronic Disease is the big problem. We are focused fully on chronic disease now, you see, you know what’s happening in America.
We’re trying to get focus towards chronic illness. And ultimately, like it is the scourge. It’s why I got involved in medicine 20 years ago, because I saw that this was coming, and here it is now. And you know, it is bankrupting all of us. Look at the you know, right now, you’re seeing the panic in America as they take away the Obamacare subsidies. And realize, everyone realizes, oh my god, healthcare is so expensive. But that was what I was arguing seven years ago, is that, like this, reason why healthcare is so expensive, one, the prices are out of control. Ridiculous, corruption. You need to build everything on top of stable, low prices.
But the second thing is, everyone’s chronically ill, and if you have a situation where everyone’s chronically ill, obviously it’s going to cost a lot, because the cost of chronic illness is ridiculously high. That’s what I learned in my health economics more than 20 years ago, and it couldn’t be more true, and I couldn’t be more right about the situation that we find ourselves in. So obviously, there was an opportunity the very beginning to of the covid, to use platforms to talk about creating health.
And there may have also been a great there was also a great opportunity for the functional medicine community to lead the charge on understanding what immunity actually is that would have been great, and it actually did happen. But today’s clinical corner, we are going to go back to what I think was probably the best presentation that happened. And just to give you some context, I’ll show you the slide here. But ultimately, this presentation that I’m going to show you today, or some of the slides from this presentation, was given on April 16, 2020, you can see it right here.
I was one of the speakers. Jeff bland was the first speaker. Dr Ari vojdani was the second speaker. This is his presentation. Cheng Roan was the third speaker, and I was the fourth speaker. And we had about 5000 doctors that were registered. No one knew what was going on, but what you will see in this presentation, a lot was known. We knew a lot, and we still haven’t learned these we haven’t learned these lessons. So let’s go, what is the first the name of Ari’s presentation. And Ari bajdani is a legend. He was on the first evolution of medicine Summit.
He’s the godfather of functional autoimmunity, really understanding the autoimmune mechanisms and the way to bring it back. He was very involved in the beginning of the Cyrex labs. And so, you know, here we go, the crisis of the immune system. How covid 19 impacts chronic immune conditions and its implication on building immune resilience in your patients. We should have been talking about immune resilience. We were I launched a product in June of 2020 called the immune collaborative groups of people working together online to build their immune resilience.
I watched this, I took action. It turned into the business heal community, but I was so it was so obvious to me what needed to happen. So here’s the question, why did covid 19 infection and mortality rates differ from state to state and from country to country? This is the key graph. I shared this on social media, and everyone wanted to know, because this is the valuable information that people wanted to know about.
Why do so many people get exposed to coffee, SARS, cov, two and some people don’t get infected. Some get a mild infection, and some get a serious infection. So I’m just going to talk you through this if you’re listening to this at home. But ultimately, what you see is the three categories, there no infection, mild infection, serious infection. And ultimately, what Dr vajrayani Watch this shows is that your reaction is going to be a function of your six viral barriers.
So the viral droplets come into the eyes, the nose and the mouth, and these six viral barriers are going to be the determinant as to whether you get no infection, mild infection, or serious infection. So what is the first one, the exposome? What does that mean? The history of all of your exposures, forever, right? So that’s a big deal. That’s an important information, like, how compromised is your detoxification system?
How many toxins have you taken in this is a key, key issue, and probably one of the reasons why American did so badly when it comes to covid is because we got way more toxins in the environment. This was called out April 2020 by Dr Ari vajdani, second mucosal immunity. Oh my god. This is the biggest topic of all time, literally, when they’re rolling out. The vaccines, and saying it’s like, so effective, I’m texting with my functional medicine friends say, can you believe this? Like, why is no one talking about mucosal immunity?
This is actually something that the functional medicine community should have led on in their communities, because people in functional medicine know that part of immunity is mucosal immunity, and, you know, and part of it is other we get into that a little bit later. You got mucosal immunity and you got systemic immunity. We’ve done so much on this, you know, since then, but ultimately, we the vaccines didn’t really affect, you know, mucosal immunity in the same way, neutralizing antibodies. Do you have a lot of neutralizing antibodies?
How are the state of your viral receptors, the innate immune response, how good is that? And the anti inflammatory cytokines? So this was predicting who would get a bad result. And essentially, what you see is that if you’re young and healthy, you’re going to get almost no infection, and if you’re old and unhealthy, you’re going to get a serious infection. And so why did America do worse than any other country? It’s not because we’ve got an older population, because there are countries with older populations, it’s because we’re all chronically ill.
It’s because we’re all chronically ill. That is the reason why we struggled and we had the most death. Never mind the, you know, putting everyone on to breathing apparatus and other things that cause that. Never mind sending people into into nursing homes. But you know, that is the number one thing. So here, the sign talks about the external environment, the internal environment that affects us, the exposome and health. Now we’re getting into the science that Ari showed. There personal experiences in the world of exposome. She talks about himself.
There the classification of the immune system, right? We have mucosal immunity and systemic immunity antibodies are involved in both, but ultimately, s, IgA, s IgM, mucosal immunity, and that’s detected in the saliva, and then you have IgG, IgA, IgM and IGE detected in the blood serum. And ultimately, like this, is an area where we could have been a lot more forthright in really understanding that this, you know, both of these need to be in play for us to really understand immune health. So AIGA immunity, this immune system’s defensive wall through the digestive tract.
Individuals with normal Secretory IgA, you can see that here, do salivary antibodies reliably reflect both mucosal and systemic immunity. Two major antibody classes operate in saliva, Secretory IgA and IgG. And it says at the end, saliva remains an interesting biological fluid with great scientific and clinical potentials, and so probably would have been interesting to understand some of that information. And so that’s what’s being talked about there. He talked about food allergy, intolerance, talked about the epithelial cells, the gut lining. Talked about infection, replication and spread.
This is really interesting. So like, how does, how do viruses spread? The viral DNA, the replication process and the spread, not much talked about this out there in the world. But ultimately, you know, this is that. So we should probably be able to make you know this available, because ultimately, you know that there’s information here about the B cells, T cells, and you can differentiate initiative the T cells. We had spoken a couple of weeks ago about the T reg cells, and you know the recent Nobel Prize for that, and what it would look like to have a balanced immune system. But what it like in this time? You know, I know everyone was scared.
I know everyone was scared of losing their license. I know that people who got in front of their community and got vitamin D and other anti viral herbal tools out into their community, got cease and desist letters anyone who was doing it at reasonable scale. So I understand. And then in California, where I was, I know friends of mine who were doctors were thinking about leaving the state because they couldn’t post on social media. They were, you know, could lose their license.
But, you know, we missed a big opportunity to lead here, because ultimately, you know, I was at a conference two weeks ago, and Dr Chris turnpour, who runs turnpike health and wellness, one of the biggest and most successful functional medicine clinics in the country, gave a talk on immunity, and I was speaking to a doctor afterwards, it was an hour and a half thought, and he was like I did immunity in undergrad and in medical school, and the primer that you just gave me in an hour and a half was more valuable than all of that.
So in our community, we have so much knowledge and understanding of the of how the immune system actually works, and yet we’re just not talking about it in the way that it needs to be talked about, and we have all of that information in our community. So hopefully we’re all in a position where you who’s listening to this, can go out and be an educator in your community, to go out and talk about how people can avoid the next pandemic by getting healthy, to talk about how people can avoid the rising healthcare costs by being healthy.
This is what is necessary in our time today, and ultimately, this is it. I’ll show you one last slide, which is essentially talking about, you know, the six Ohm concept of viral infection. And I think this just sort of lays it all out. What are the different ohms that contribute towards viral infection or not, there’s the. Genome, right? There’s going to be some level of genetic sensibility. There’s the exposome we’ve talked about before. There’s the gut microbiome, there’s the food ome, and all of those things together create the immuno and basically your immuno and relationship with the virome is going to determine whether or not you get effective.
And this is something all of the stuff here on the left is ultimately under the control of you and your patients as you support them in building immune resilience. And ultimately, this is going to help your brain health. It’s super interdependent. So this is going to help your brain health, this is going to help your cardiovascular health, this is going to help your metabolic health. We’ve talked about the immunometabolic connection. So there’s a lot there. And then, how to build your immune resilience. This slide was great.
How to Build Your mucosal immune system, moderate exercise, stress reduction, colostrum, chicken mushroom extracts, glutamine, glutathione, pre probiotics, fiber, flavonoids, Echinacea, calicillin, from garlic. And then it has there how to build your phagocytosis, T and B cell function, nk, cell activity, regulatory T cell and cytokines. You can see all of that information there. We’ll put this in the show notes so that you can get this but man, I wish this had been able to be broadcast to a billion people in the same way that we vaccinated 7 billion people.
This information could have affected and could now still affect the next, you know, seven generations beyond us as we really understand what it takes to build immune resilience so that we’re not so fearful and so dysfunctional when the next thing comes along. So this is clinical corner. Thank you, Dr Ari vajdani for leading the way. Thank you, Dr Elroy bodgestein for taking it up to the next level. Elroy is an amazing educator. If you’ve never seen him talk, definitely cut from the same cloth. So much information on you know what we could be doing here.
And if you’re listening again, make sure to take a look at these slides, because there’s a ton of value here. And we’ll have the key ones on goevomed.com/podcast, where we have this. All right, so that is the clinical side, all right. So to put this into context of why this is important now is that there’s still commercials going on for the covid 19 vaccine. And look, when the vaccine first came out, it was clear in the press or otherwise that you were an anti Vaxxer if you weren’t up to date with the recommended initial vaccines and then boosters.
Unfortunately, that means that, like more than 90% of America is an anti vaccine now by that same classification, because so few people are up to speed or up to having the latest dose of the booster. Very I don’t know anyone who’s had a covid vaccine in the last three years. I know they do exist. I just don’t know any of them, or maybe I don’t know that they know, but this commercial that’s on now for next bike is still live. This is why it’s important for us to be clear about what happened if we know that covid jabs caused excess deaths, we should know that now, because this is still on TV in America today, take a look.
Meet this year’s Senior Class back together and most likely to get protected with M next bike, a new and different covid 19 vaccine from moderna for adults 65 and older. These seniors chose M next bike because it targets the virus differently to provide a robust immune response at a lower dose, M next bike is a covid 19 vaccine for people 65 and older, you shouldn’t get m next bike if you’ve had an allergic reaction to a previous moderna covid 19 vaccine. Yeah, you probably shouldn’t. Moderna has never had a successful product. Its first product was the covid vaccine. Look at the share price of moderna.
It’s a disaster, and it’s because they don’t have, like Merck or Pfizer, like a massive back catalog of other products that are also profitable, so they need this thing to work. Rare cases of inflammation of the heart muscle and outer lining have been reported the most. Wasn’t that rare. I watched a lot of soccer. You see all the people going down, young people, athletes. I know this is for older people, but I also know that a lot of other older people struggle with this and heart myocarditis, the most common side effects are injection site, pain, tiredness, headache, muscle and joint pain, chills, nausea or vomiting, swelling or soreness under the arm, these seniors are celebrating homecoming with a lower dose covid 19 vaccine that helps them enjoy their time together like it’s senior year all over again.
Why do they need a lower dose? Surely they should have the full dose. Maybe the lower dose should be for the kids that were under 100 pounds. M, next bike, the new covid 19 vaccine by moderna for the senior class. Ask your pharmacist or doctor about. M, next spike, yeah. So I mean, look again, it comes back to the point that might be extremely valuable and it might be extremely harmful. The only way that we’re going to know is to have Truth and Reconciliation about what happened the first time around. And ultimately, I think that there’s no reason you know why this information is being kept under wraps or why it’s not coming out, because there is a.
Large, large percentage of the population now that obviously doesn’t trust to take the latest booster. And ultimately, you know, are not going to trust this. And ultimately, if you want truth before reconciliation, that’s all we’re asking for here. All right, let’s talk a little bit about our partners here we have. We’re going to talk about some of the resources that we have available on our innovation corner and talk about big problem that is facing practitioners that I’ve heard people talk about in all different areas. But I do want to talk a little bit about, you know, some of our partners.
So I’ve mentioned true neuro is going gangbusters. You know, I think a lot of practitioners have been waiting for something to make it easier to do this multimodal approach to reversing cognitive decline. And so we’re seeing lots of clinics signing up, getting involved with the mentorship support and the technology to synthesize and organize that data. Go to goevomed.com/truneura and you can get set up on that. And you know, I was just at Freedom practice coachings conference this last weekend, they’re another one of our, you know, mission partners.
And you know, there are now, I think, a dozen doctors who signed up for both true neuro and FPC because they were doing their regular functional medicine practice or psychiatry practice, and they wanted to add brain health. And they realized that adding a new program into the practice was going to take some support, and ultimately they are all thriving, like I saw all of them this weekend. Someone is adding another practitioner, another doctor, to their practice, another one is starting to roll this out to a lot more patients.
We have really exciting things happening in like the hormone space. You probably saw the hormone, you know, HRT, we didn’t really talk about that, but that was a big moment in the news last week. And you know, ultimately, we’re seeing that, you know, more and more hormone clinics are realizing that they need to differentiate themselves as hormone replacement therapy becomes commoditized. So want to launch a new program like brain. So if you are interested in that, you can get in touch with FBC.
Got all the details here if you go to goevomed.com/fpc, the best way to get started is to take the scalability assessment, see where your practice is now, and get a complete insight into you could do next. On that end, also big boost marketing. So how do you get your first 30 brain patients in 2026 I’ve spoken to a lot of practitioners in the last little while who are getting set up to launch a brain health program in 2026 and the big boost marketing can bring the people to you. So I want to talk about something that I’ve been thinking about for a while.
This is a conversation that is happening so often in functional medicine, is that ultimately, how do you know? Like, what do you do with the information? Like, when a patient comes in and they say, Hey, I’m already taking these supplements. What do you do? And there’s two schools of thought, and it actually speaks to the bigger conversation as to do you make your life as easy as possible, or do you go above and beyond to support your patients in the best way that you can? And you will face a lot of those decisions right when you’re running your practice.
As an example, lab tests. Is it easier to just order all new labs again? Or could you use the labs that they had ordered through their doctor not that long ago? Different people will make different choices depending on where they are in their practice journey. Because the first one is easy. You just have a protocol that comes in and you know how to do it. The other one is a bit harder, because you actually have to, like, find their labs. It may not be in the order or the structure that you’re looking for. PS is part of the reason for sure.
Neuro is organizing the data in the same order every time we digress. You know, ultimately, though, you have to make these kind of decisions, and one of the decisions that you have to know about is, what do you do when patients bring in the supplements they’re already taking? I know that some practitioners will be like, we’re starting again. That’s obviously not working for you. And some will try and see what you’re already working that they like, that you should take and ultimately, you know this is again, it’s a point of contention, because some practitioners are looking to save time, streamline their operations and just get organized.
And that might be helpful at some point, and then some practitioners are really looking to just go above and beyond with their service. And so if there is a way that I can get your labs covered by insurance, I’ll try. If there’s a way, you know, some information here in the future, if I could get your dietetics covered through your medical nutrition that you probably have inside, you know, medical nutrition therapy codes that we have, that most people have inside their commercial insurance, you know, maybe we should use that too, but specifically with the supplements, I wanted to share that this is actually a cool tool that fullscript has come up with.
And one of the things that we’re going to be doing on this show is sharing some of the cool tools that that’s fullscript Has that not many practitioners are using. You know, if you know the history, you know, we fullscript was our first major, big sponsor at the evolution of medicine. And between 2014 2019 about 5000 clinics signed up. Now there’s 125,000 practices that use fullscript. And so it’s really unlikely that you haven’t heard of fullscript. We haven’t made a decision. But ultimately, you.
Their support for our show is really because I believe that there are a lot of tools that are on fullscript that are really valuable, that people aren’t just using because they don’t know about them, and they’ve got some really cool tools coming that we’ll talk about when it’s time to talk about those. But one of the features that I want to share today is in the back end of fullscript, where you can actually put in the supplements that your patients are already taking, and because all the fullscript supplements are listed and organized by ingredient, you will be able to see what ingredients may be sort of you don’t need to prescribe because of that information, and that is a big deal.
And I really think that patients really appreciate it when their practitioner acts like a confidant. One of the reasons why direct primary care is such a great model is because the practitioner sort of acts as someone who has their best interests at heart, which is hard to find in the medical system. And so they can help them find out, like, where are the lowest prices for getting an MRI? You know, how do I use my insurance to get these lab results? How do I take best advantage of the resources that I’m already paying for?
And I would put this in that category. If you feel like the supplements that people are taking might have value, but they might miss something. What a gift to have you or ideally, someone else on your team you know work to be able to support the patient in working out, what are they already taking that meets the needs of what you’re to prescribe so that you can reduce the number of new supplements that you need to recommend to people, because they have this some cases, like a whole bag of things that maybe they’ve been taking or taking recently.
If your house looks like my house, there’s some area in the house where the supplements are kept and that area is massive. I’ve been to a bunch of my friends houses recently where I’m like, Oh, this is your supplement area, just like mine, where you see it all lined up, and you’re like, Okay, taking this, taking that. So this is the key value proposition to fullscript, which is becoming the whole person platform, right the instigation of how you execute whole person health at scale. And ultimately, this is an example that I’ve seen inside their software.
So we’re going to have the links to how that works, and we can actually have show you on the site from this video where you can find that capability. And my recommendation is that you try and take best advantage of this, because those practices that go above and beyond to make it easy for their patients to get what they’ve already paid for. Tend to have really good long term retention, really good word of mouth. It’s remarkable. It’s a remarkable experience for someone to use a tool like this to work out what’s already been used.
And this could differentiate you from the minds of other practitioners, from the medical doctor otherwise. So check out the tools. We’ll have the link there. If you haven’t got a fullscript account, check out goevomed.com/fullscript, get one. And over the next couple months, we’re going to be sharing with you in in these corners, some of the tools that are already in there. And there’s some really, really exciting things coming from fullscript when it comes to labs and when it comes to what they’re calling journeys, and we’ll be getting more into that as we go along.
But thank you fullscript. Thank you so much for your support, and I hope that if you have a fullscript account, you’ll take some time to go in there, go and look in some of the ingredient recommendation tools, because ultimately, that is going to make it easy for you to do the best by your patients. All right, this has been the episode seven of the evolution of medicine podcast. If you think this is relevant to you, please share it.
If you were having the same conversations as we were just having here today during the pandemic with your little group of practitioners, share it with them. This is a moment where we can still make up for all of the losses that we shared in the pandemic by educating people about what true immunity is, coastal immunity, all of that, I hope that this isn’t as relevant and useful as it was to you as it was to me. Thanks so much for tuning in, and we’ll see you next week. Thank you.
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