In this episode, James Maskell is joined by Dr. Jeffrey Morrison, the newly elected president of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM). Since its founding in the 1960s, AAEM has been at the forefront of understanding and addressing environmental causes of illness.
Dr. Morrison shares how AAEM is experiencing a resurgence, fueled by a new generation of passionate practitioners dedicated to tackling chronic illnesses like chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia and metabolic dysfunction through the lens of environmental health.
Key topics include:
- The impact of mold exposure, heavy metal toxicity, EMFs, and other environmental toxins on chronic disease.
- How AAEM is training practitioners to integrate environmental factors into their care strategies.
- Building a community of practitioners to advocate for policy changes that improve public health.
- Highlights from the upcoming AAEM conference in San Antonio, featuring renowned speakers like Del Bigtree and Erin Brockovich.
James also reflects on how Dr. Morrison’s innovative clinic shaped his early thinking about lifestyle medicine and patient engagement.
Tune in to explore how AAEM is leading the charge for a healthier future through environmental medicine.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD::
The whole glyphosate conversation is always still coming up, even on organic crops because the wind blows these chemicals everywhere. So we want to make sure that we recognize that we have a like-minded community within the United States and we want to bring everyone together to be able to share ideas. We have big aspirations. Ultimately, it’s for patient health and also for practitioner education.
James Maskell:
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Hello and welcome to the podcast. This week we have Dr. Jeffrey Morrison of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine. Dr. Morrison was one of the original attendees of the Functional Forum back in 2014 -15. He gave some great talks back then. He’s been a leader in environmental medicine for a long time. As you’ll hear in this podcast, the American Academy of Environmental Medicine is having a comeback and is bringing a new different type of energy to our industry than we have received over the last decade by being on the front lines of environmental health and the clinical causes that create ill health through environmental issues. And I think what you’ll hear is an exciting upcoming conference there. Annual conferences in February in San Antonio. I’ll be there. Hope you can join us. Enjoy this great podcast from Dr. Jeffrey Morrison.
James Maskell:
So a warm welcome to the podcast, the new president of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine, Dr. Jeffrey Morrison.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
It’s great to see you, James. It’s wonderful to be here. I know we’ve got lots to catch up on.
James Maskell:
Yeah, we do. Well look, I mean today what we’re going to talk about, we’re going to talk about the resurgence of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine, which I know that you’ve been centrally involved in with some other key players. We could definitely talk about that. But I guess I just wanted to talk about the state of the world because I think 10 years ago when we started the functional forum and I lived in New York and we were doing things together and connecting about how we think things would change, and obviously you as someone who’s deeply passionate about environmental illness and helping patients with environmental illness, just love to get your take on the state of the world today.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
Well, that’s a big question and I’m glad we have time to talk about it. Certainly a lot in the United States is about to happen that I believe will be good for doctors that want to do more for helping their patients who fall between the cracks. Honestly, conventional medicine has been wonderful for acute injuries, surgeries, certain types of cancers. So many types of medical problems has have been alleviated or become treated through conventional means. But there are a lot of people that are falling between the cracks more and more so that we’re seeing in our offices and so many other people that are starting to practice functional and integrative medicine. And those patients are looking for solutions that are not being answered with conventional treatments, the people that have chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, chronic digestive problems like irritable bowel and also certain types of cancers that have been unable to be treated by the conventional needs.
And now we’re also getting into metabolic problems that people have been finding that diet and nutrition is no longer enough. We are really kind of continuing to evolve and I believe a lot of the answers are falling into the realm of environmental factors that are influencing people’s deteriorating health. And by understanding that people are getting exposed to infections that become chronic Lyme disease and all of the tickborne diseases, but made worse by mold exposure or heavy metal exposure or toxins from the environment like persistent organic pollutants or plastics, pesticides and preservatives. That’s really where people are falling into the cracks. They’re looking for why am I not getting better? And now we have lots of doctors that are part of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine and I believe also some of the other functional and integrative medicine organizations, but particularly with a EM, we really dive deep into the why and where are these patients not being able to get treatments and conventional solutions.
And we hope we have answers, but certainly we have answers as to where and why. And then the big question is how to unwind this by doing the detoxification of mold and metals and electromagnetic frequencies and even emotional detoxes as well. So it’s very exciting times for AAEM and I think for our patients and practitioners because even now on the big stage, people are starting to ask questions, why are we still adding fluoride to water? Why are we not paying more attention to artificial coloring in our food? And also all the processing, is that really good for us? People are asking the questions and now at the highest level, hopefully the answers are going to come in the form of better quality food sourcing regulation about the quality of processed foods, better oils. I believe it’s on the way, but knowledge is power and that’s what we hope to do is provide our practitioners with knowledge that they can pass on to their patients.
James Maskell:
Awesome. Yeah, I love that. Well, yeah, I guess I just wanted to reflect back, you mentioned fluoride there as an example. And it’s interesting you mentioned that was our podcast topic last week because that’s sort of become a really interesting conversation. And I guess I think there was many topics and conversations that have been sort of niche in our world for the last 20 years or the last 20 years that I’ve worked in this industry. And I would go to these conferences and hear things in these conferences and then go to dinner parties and mention them and make people look to me like I had two heads because I was talking about water fluoridization or fluoridation as an example, or many of these other topics as you just mentioned, organic pollutants or whatever. But I guess I just want to reflect back that’s something that’s quite interesting is that when I started in this world 20 years ago, you see you had clinics like yours that are in New York and then other famous clinics that are in Chicago and la and it was sort of seen as this something that was only really available in these big cities.
And now that we think about them in this topic, you’d see these big democratic cities and there was no functional medicine or there was none of this kind of care happening in the middle of the country, in the south and so forth. But now one, you have clinics all over the place because this is just proliferated and just taken root. But also now it’s interesting because this new focus on this has come from the other side of the political spectrum in a certain way. It’s everywhere now and it’s a dominant theme and that there’s almost sort of like a level of agreement about it. And I guess I feel coming to the end of this year, what we call this year, the year of unity, I’m not sure if we have political unity or if that was ever even possible or if that was necessary, but I do think there’s a level of unity or agreement that there is illness caused by environmental harms of various sorts and we need to get on with doing something it. And I feel like there is a level of unity on that conversation across the whole country.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
Well, the reason I even brought up fluoride was because today in the Wall Street Journal, in their opinion section, they brought up the question about the logic behind fluoridation of water. So just for the fact that in a conventional newspaper they’re opening up the opportunity to have a conversation to revisit the conversation. That started with fluoridation when it’s, remember this all started back during the nuclear age when they were looking to refine materials and one of the byproducts was fluoride. And then they had to figure out what were they going to do with all the fluoride waste. Now they did a lot of research to figure out what could benefit from fluoride. And I think that of all the many, many medical problems they thought could benefit from low levels of fluoride, the only one that they found that could possibly benefit might be helping to prevent cavities.
Well, why is that? Nope. What is actually happening when you add fluoride to water? Well, fluoride is a poison. They used to use fluoride as rat bait before arsenic or whatever they’re using now. The point is, is that it works as an insecticide, pesticide or rodenticide solution. So is it really necessary to constantly flood our mouth with antibacterial ingredients? So the point is we’re questioning the original thought processes. I think that’s a very good thing. And so to your point, can we ever agree on anything? Well, maybe not, but at least we can talk about it. And if we talk about it, then we can come closer to what the best solution is. And certainly I recognize that when you’re creating public policy for a nation, it’s a little bit different than creating an instruction or a treatment plan for an individual. But I think that some of the great health policies that were created 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago may not have all the information that we have now.
And certainly now we know that fluoride probably has no beneficial effect on the human body. And when it builds up to a level that’s too high, you get dental fluorosis those white spots on the teeth and then you also get brittle bones and you also are affecting a person’s health. So I’m glad to see that there’s a conversation and that’s what we hope to do. If we can talk to each other logically, we can present both sides of the story and then come to a logical solution, but it will change. And that’s the beauty of Americas. We are meant to speak to each other. We believe in trying to find the truth. And sometimes what a person’s personal truth is may not actually be what makes sense for everybody. So that’s why we need to understand different perspectives. As an environmental medicine doctor, we certainly see the detrimental effects of these different types of toxins and poisons or toxicants in the environment and how they adversely affect people’s health. So we’re very excited to see that we’ll be having conversations again. And so that’s a good thing.
James Maskell:
Yeah. Well, before we get into some of the details about the academy and your work there, I guess I just wanted to reflect a story to you of something that you may not even be aware of, but how your practice actually played. An important part in my thinking and actually gave in my thinking early on with the functional forum, in fact, pre functional forum. So it was probably like 2011, 2012, and we’re in New York and I’m living in New York now. And because I’m in this world and this world is very niche, the thing that I’m getting a lot is asks from people as to who to go and see in New York. Like, “Hey, I’ve got this issue, or my cousin’s got this issue, or my sister-in-law’s got this issue” or otherwise. And when you, you’re sort in the business, but you’re not seeing all these doctors yourself, you’re sort of serving these doctors, you don’t really know who’s going to be a good referral and you try out a few people at the beginning.
And I guess the thing that I want to reflect back to you, one is that you were the first guy where I kind of had a level of confidence where if I referred someone to you that it would work, they would be happy and they would come back to me and go, wow, the Morrison Center was awesome, or Jeff was amazing. Or even when Dr. Berzin worked there in your clinic, you did an amazing job of pulling that together and you could see what Robin’s gone out and done in the world now is amazing. But there was one thing that happened there. So Gabe and I would talk, and there was one patient that came back and I wasn’t sure whether to refer to her to you because she wasn’t that sick. It was the people who I was referring to who were loving it, were people who had tried everything, had multiple issues going on, was sort of like a medical basket case.
And you were very good at helping them start the process of thinking what it was going to take to heal and going through that process. But I remember having a conversation, I remember sitting with Gabe and saying like, “Hey, I recommended this person, Jeff Morrison, and they came back and they were like, ‘This was way too much.’” The gap between what they had expected or what they’d received anywhere else was them. And you were doing this and they respected you, but they just felt like it was too much. And it was one of the things I would say it was one of the first thoughts that Gabe and I had where we just sort of realized at that moment, I would say 0% of clinics had a health coach involved in their world. But I remember Gabe saying it’s like if you’re still drinking five Cokes a day, you probably don’t need to go and see Jeff Morrison.
The first thing you need to do is work with someone who’s going to help you not drink five Cokes a day. And then down the road when you’ve got a baseline level of health going go in and do the tests and see what’s going on. But the tests aren’t going to be that helpful if you still are operating at that level. And it just really, I would say that moment informed our thinking a long way through even through to today, is that in chronic illness, the participation is really the first participation in your own health. Every day is this sort of fundamental layer that has to be dealt with. And actually the functional medicine doctor can be of value, but may be a little bit overwhelming for someone who is not operating at a point where they can make the best of it. And I don’t think you even know that you were involved in that story, but you were. And it was because in that moment we sort of just had this realization that there’s sort of a zero to one that most people need to go through, and that perhaps the functional medicine doctor isn’t the best person to take in there. I’d love to get your thoughts on that.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
Well, I think that it could go both ways, frankly. It’s a great story. I appreciate that.
So it’s really nice to hear what patients feel about coming in for an evaluation, but I think that the people that benefit the most are either the people that have the significant issues, they’ve become well-informed on their own, and then they want to do deeper dives. But also there’s this whole group of young entrepreneurs and business people and laborers and just health interested, health-minded people that are biohacking and they have already done so much research on their own. Agreed. If a person needs to focus on their meal plan and their movement and their mindset, I feel like there’s still a place for that so that a person can get structure for how to be the advocate for themselves.
But there are biohackers out there that have actually raised my level of treatment because they’ve brought to me ideas about how to use peptides for recovery or red light therapy for recovery or things that help with improving telomere length or cell rejuvenation. So what becomes beautiful is when the patient and the practitioner become partners for the patient’s best interest, patients often will become micro experts in their issues, both for chronic illnesses, but also for improving their health to the optimal level. And through both of those situations, practitioners have an opportunity to learn, inform the patients, and give context to what should and shouldn’t may not be the best ideas. Because for example, so many patients with chronic diseases say, I want to try all of these things. And I said, well, in your case it seems like these are the high priorities, let’s focus on this one or two or three things. And same thing on the other side. The people that are looking to do the biohacking and health optimization, they say, what do you think of all of these options? And we hopefully have the context to be able to get them to get focused on what’s best for their particular issue. So it’s a great story. I appreciate it. And that was in 2011. I’m not sure if I’ve changed that much since then, but maybe a little bit. We always hope that we’re getting better every day, every year.
James Maskell:
Well, I guess I just want to reflect the power you have had a consistent brand. And I know that for a lot of practitioners that we work with, building a consistent brand of delivery is not easy in a sort of an ever changing world and so forth. But yeah, consistent quality across decades is not easy to do, especially in a rapidly changing field. But yeah, let’s jump into it. So I mean, I was at a conference in San Antonio about a year and a half ago, maybe a year ago, and I was at a different conference and I heard that the a EM was in town and I came across town and I came to check it out and it’s a great energy there and we got to see each other again for the first time in a while. Cause I haven’t been back to New York for a long time and just saw in the room some people that I think very highly of Derek Guillory I’ve got to know extremely well over the last few years. And he’s just a great, I know—
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
Mate,
James Maskell:
He’s actually a guy now, if I get those kind of extremely hard cases where people come from anywhere in the world, they say, this person’s got 55 illnesses or whatever, I typically now send them to Derek. Mainly just because Derek has so many gizmos in his practice that so many options. And I know that people go and stay there for sort of a week at a time and go in every day.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
So Derek, we are so fortunate to have him on the board of directors of AAEM. He’s been invaluable in giving the academy’s direction from his perspective and also the education that a lot of the members have been able to get within his practice on high level IV therapies has been one of the great offerings that we’ve been able to deliver at AAEM. So yeah, him and so many others, but yet Derek is solid.
James Maskell:
So I just came and I guess what I felt like I didn’t really know that much about the AAEM and never came to one of the conferences. The thing that I did know about it was that it was like the original organization from the sixties, which predates IFM by 25 or 30 years. So I knew that it had been around a long time. But I guess what I felt that I was excited by was sort of like a new infusion of young-ish energy of very well accomplished doctors who wanted to talk a little bit outside of the box about what was really getting people better with environmental illness. So I’d love for you to share your journey of getting involved with them and what you feel now post covid and why you’ve chosen to step into this leadership position here.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
Thank you. So I was fortunate to learn about AAEM when I first graduated from my family practice residency in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania in 1999. And I was fortunate because I went into practice with an environmental medicine doc in Mechanicsburg, PA, John Sullivan. And he’s like, you have to become a member of AAEM. And he introduced me to it and I went to their basic training courses. It was a great insight into how to deal with allergies, chemical sensitivities, heavy metal detoxification, IV nutrient replenishment therapy. And I was learning with a lot of these godfathers of environmental medicine people like Doris Rapp and Sherry Rogers and Adrian Sprouse, so many others. And that was back then. So then fast forward AAEM had a lot of those older doctors who were practicing traditional allergy environmental detoxification. They had not, they’ve kind of stopped practicing and there was really no leadership there.
And me and a number of other younger members kind of took the reins and became energized to reinvigorate AAEM. And I would include in the people that were doing this is Jessica Tran who is past president two before me, Diego Support, who was my most recent past president and then myself just to say a few members that rose to the occasion to kind of bring back energy both by bringing in naturopathic doctors, nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and of course MDs and DOs. And with having a bigger group of doctors and healthcare practitioners that are so passionate about finding underlying causes and helping patients to find solutions became, we all have this feeling of a strong mission of helping patients and practitioners to understand what the toxins are that people are getting exposed to that’s affecting their health and then what to do about it.
So most recently at that great conference that you were at where Peter McCullough and Joe Peter Alig who basically helped to define many of the cardiovascular effects of Covid and Covid vaccine on individuals and then Joe Adapa, who’s the surgeon general of Florida, who basically came out saying that there was no reason for people to get covid booster shots because it didn’t show any efficacy. These are people that really stood out for medical integrity because they were following the research rather than the rhetoric. And it becomes confusing. It is very difficult to know what a person should do when there’s a lot of fear being drummed up about things, conditions, illnesses. And these are doctors that we were fortunate enough to have as keynote speakers at our conference that we tended to together. And I think there was so much energy at that conference for truth, we were all like, this makes sense, how come nobody else is talking about it?
And we’re looking forward to now our next conference in San Antonio, February 13th through 16th, where we’re going to have some great keynote speakers. Del Bigtree is going to be there who does the highwire and he’s going, he’s a great voice for health freedom and Aaron Brockovich who people have heard about because of the movie Aaron Brockovich, which was about hexavalent chromium in California drinking water that affected people’s health. And now she’s going to be talking about APFAs, which is a polyfluorinated chemical, which is a forever chemical that’s affecting people’s health. These are topics that people hear about in the news tangentially like, oh by the way, there was a freight train spill that is affecting this group of people. Or by the way, Teflon that coats our non-stick pans may not be so healthy for us. That’s A-P-F-A-S. So the chemical name gets scary, but the applications are all ubiquitous and we should know as practitioners what these names are and how to test it in the blood or the urine and then help patients recognize this might be part of their health problem because it does get to be quite complicated when people are dealing with pretty significant health challenges.
But that’s where a m excels. We have such a great robust education for even the beginning practitioner through our partner organization called EMEI, which is led by Lynn Patrick and Anne Marie fine, the Environmental Medicine Education Institute. And they do a yearlong basic training for AAEM new members. And it’s such a great deep dive on all the toxicants or toxins that people get exposed to from metals, mold and EMFs, organic compounds. And then of course AAEM does very good high-level training for IV therapies that are for detoxifying. Things like lead, mercury and gadolinium. How about that one from contrast eyes from MRIs. People don’t think about those things, but gadolinium deposition disease is becoming a pretty significant problem for people that have had too many MRIs with contrast, the numbness and tingling and brain fog, there’s a treatment for that, but you got to know how to check for it.
And then like mold, I don’t know, I think it was just everybody stayed inside too long during the pandemic and so many people had low level water damage within their homes because of leaks around their windows sills or weak leaks in the shower or leaks from the apartment above. And then the water came down the drywall and caused mold to grow and they didn’t know it. Or they got underneath their floorboards and caused warping, they didn’t know it. And then they get these strange, strange symptoms, strange seeming like autoimmune conditions or rashes or irritability or the brain fog, chronic fatigue. So it’s remarkable. And James, I think we got to turn your—
James Maskell:
And cognitive decline is another area. This is really passionate for me because last year my father suffered a really strong cognitive decline from mold and it’s really reinvigorated my interest. I guess I just want to reflect back to you, over the years we’ve had good partnerships with different education organizations and cover different groups. And I know there’s probably people listening here who’ve been through training with IFM or A4M. And I just think that in the current climate, there will be a need for real leadership in this area and there’ll be a renewed interest in this. And ultimately what I think that we need is we need capacity, right? We need capacity of clinics that can actually do this work as the light gets shined on all of it. And I think that if you have gone and taken IFM Biotransformation detoxification modules, there is another layer of sophistication here that can be gleaned from some of these other education groups.
And that ultimately, yeah, there’s going to be a lot of need for this sort of education. And everyone that you’ve mentioned there and even people that you haven’t mentioned that I know are really strongly aligned with your group like Dr. Kelly McCann who’s been on the forum before. There’s just so many experts there that you have in your community. And I think that rubbing shoulders with them for a weekend is a great fit and we will take your knowledge to the next level. And I guess I’m just thinking also about our themes here because our theme for 2025 is transformation. And this I think fits within bio transformation really as a critical topic, clinical topic in that theme of transformation because ultimately we light is going to get shined on the ways in which chemical toxins and biotoxins are affecting human health. And I think that if I’m a practitioner, I want to make sure that I’m the middle of that conversation in my town, in my community, and that I’m sort of ready to help. And I think this would be a great way to put yourself in the middle of that.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
Well, I’m glad you said the biotransformation and of course we agree with that wholeheartedly. But also just like that book right behind your left shoulder, 2025 for us is all about community. And what we mean by that is not only just the community of practitioners within AAEM, but we also are very serious about doing outreach to other like-minded organizations. For example, we’ve just now created a nice relationship with our sister organization in Great Britain. There’s the British Society of Environmental Medicine that now we are going to be collaborating on future topics together and also sharing our education also within the United States. We strongly believe that we are better together working together for like-minded goals, not just for our patient’s health, but also with regards to what just happened with most recent election. We hope that this is an opportunity for us to have a seat at the table to help inform what are better farming practices, what are better?
Is there a pesticide or agricultural agent that can help with the intended effect of getting rid of pests, but at the same time not being toxic. So toxic to humans, the whole glyphosate conversation is always still coming up even on organic crops because the wind blows these chemicals everywhere. And so we want to make sure that we recognize that we have a like-minded community within the United States, and we want to bring everyone together to be able to share ideas. We have big aspirations. Ultimately it’s for patient health and also for practitioner education. But we know that there’s a lot of like-minded doctors out there that think the same way we do, James. And we strongly hope that we can be together because we know we’ll be stronger together, stronger for the practitioners and stronger for the patients. And for you, organizations like you that are so important in helping to establish helping doctors to get started on this path?
James Maskell:
Well, yeah. I guess I just want to I guess end where we started, which is just, do you remember that movie Sliding Doors with Gwyneth Paltrow? And I don’t know if you ever think about yourself as what would’ve happened if the first doctor that you had gone to work with hadn’t been in environmental medicine, you were just like Jeff Morrison, family medicine, doing your thing in some town and doing it. It’s like the people that you meet and the people that you train under and the people that you work with have such a massive impact on your future trajectory. And so I just want to give a shout out to anyone who’s listening, who’s at the beginning of their education journey and are thinking about what they want to do with their life, that showing up to a conference like this will be forever transformational to the way that you see the world. And I’m excited to be there because I’ve seen Erin Brockovich speak before. I think she’s amazing. I love Dale. And I think that amongst the clinicians that you have there, you have the people that have just been grinding it out to work out how to get these people healthy in a very dysfunctional environment. And now I think maybe with the environment becoming a little bit more functional, it’s time to build capacity and build coherence between these practitioners. And what better way to do that than this conference.
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
Yeah. And we’re thrilled to also, we feel like we have a partnership with you and your organization as well, because we want practitioners to be able to understand how to have a successful practice. It’s one thing to have a practice to make that practice successful, that adds the opportunity to create, to scale. So see more patients, to have more patients access to this type of practice. And it’s through making smart decisions about structuring what doctors don’t love talking about, which is some of the business stuff. And I know that you can help with that. But I would say when it comes to revolving doors, I think that some of it probably is fate, but also I believe a lot of it is purpose. When a person, a practitioner has an idea about what they believe in, do they believe they should be spending more time with their patients?
Do they believe that the environment has some kind of impact on the health of their patients’ wellbeing? Do they believe that they should help patients find solutions that are related to diet and exercise and nutrition and detoxification strategies? If they have those ideas in mind, absolutely join us in San Antonio in February over Valentine’s Day. We will have a wonderful event together. And I think people will recognize that that’s the family that they were looking for. They will see the connection and they will begin to blossom from seeing the potential learning new quickly applicable practices for their offices. And I think they’ll make a lot of new friends too. We can’t practice in silos. There’s not one day that goes by that I’m not texting like Lynn Patrick, what do you think about this? Or Kelly McCann, what was that detox strategy from mold? Can you please remind me? Everybody develops their network. It starts with the right organization. We are a community. We think of it ourselves as a family. And if practitioners want to join the family, please come and join AAEM. We want to see you there.
James Maskell:
Beautiful. Well, we’ll be there and we look forward to seeing you there. Jeff, thanks so much for leading the charge in stepping from the role of being a leader in New York and having your practice there to now taking this on. And I want to reflect to everyone who’s listening, just the energy that I experienced there a year ago was something that was very different than I’d experienced in different conferences because it was finally a feeling like, hey, this is starting to happen. And the understanding of environmental illness on the national stage was coming and here it is, and now it’s your time to shine. So hope to see you there. We’ll be there and look forward to working with all of you there. Any final thoughts, Jeff?
Jeffrey Morrison, MD:
James, I’m looking forward to seeing you there. I know that we’re overdue for getting a catch up in person, so all I want to say is there’s a lot to be grateful for and thankful for. This is the time of year for that. But I’m thankful for you and what you’re doing and we have a great network that we’re evolving. So I’m thrilled to work together and we’re looking forward to building the community.
James Maskell:
Thanks so much. Alright, well this has been the Evolution of Medicine podcast. We’ve been with Dr. Jeffrey Morrison of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine. See all the show notes for the details about the upcoming conference and more education opportunities with that organization. Thanks so much for tuning in and we’ll see you next time.
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