What happens when artificial intelligence meets consciousness in medicine?
In this live episode from the Institute for Functional Medicine Annual Conference, James Maskell speaks with psychiatrist Dr. Robert Hedaya about the transformative – and potentially dangerous – role of AI in modern healthcare.
Dr. Hedaya shares how analyzing a Parkinson’s patient’s brain imaging using multiple AI systems led him to a breakthrough insight: AI models can correct each other when used in dialogue, reducing hallucinations and improving clinical reasoning. But he warns that AI is not truth-seeking – it is probabilistic, persuasive, and often overconfident.
The conversation explores the psychological risks of AI, including over-trust, loss of agency, and the emotional “seduction” of algorithmic validation. Dr. Hedaya introduces the idea of “awe” as a double-edged psychological state that can either expand awareness or lead to submission.
He also raises serious concerns about AI in mental health, particularly its ability to reinforce harmful thought patterns without ethical grounding or clinical safeguards.
Beyond AI, Dr. Hedaya critiques mainstream psychiatry for its overreliance on medication and lack of focus on root causes such as inflammation, hormones, and brain physiology. He outlines a future of precision psychiatry powered by integrative medicine, neuroimaging, and AI-enhanced data interpretation.
This episode challenges clinicians to rethink not just technology – but consciousness itself in the practice of medicine.
About the Guest:
Dr. Robert Hedaya is a psychiatrist and pioneer in integrative and functional approaches to mental health. He is known for his work in whole-body psychiatry, emphasizing the role of physiology, inflammation, hormones, and brain systems in mental health disorders.
Over his career, Dr. Hedaya has advocated for a shift away from purely medication-based psychiatric models toward root-cause, systems-based care. His work integrates neuroscience, clinical psychiatry, and functional medicine principles, with a focus on treating underlying biological drivers of mental illness.
More recently, he has explored the intersection of artificial intelligence and medicine, particularly how AI can assist in clinical reasoning while also introducing new ethical and cognitive risks. His work emphasizes the importance of clinician consciousness, critical thinking, and maintaining human judgment in an increasingly AI-driven healthcare system.
Dr. Hedaya is a leading voice in precision psychiatry, integrative mental health, and the future role of AI in clinical decision-making.
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This is, uh, a difference in scale, right? In other words, you could know a lot, you could be a genius, you’re never gonna have access to the knowledge that AI does. You’re never gonna be able to synthesize it with the speed and the integration, et cetera, that AI can in short per- So this is a difference in, in scale.
We have access to in all the knowledge that we’ve accumulated over hundreds if not thousands of years. That’s a different ball game. Yeah. To me, that’s like the atom bomb. Incredible change in scale of how destructive we could be. It’s a- Yeah … this is a different scale. How do you deal with that? How do you not become awed by it?
How do you not become s- how do you not turn over your agency and say, “Well, it knows better than me.” Do that. Hello, and welcome back to the Evolution of Medicine podcast. We are here at the Institute for Functional Medicine’s annual international conference, and we are checking in with leaders, speakers, innovators from around the world, and super excited to be here with Dr.
Robert Hedaya. Um, I thought we were gonna start the meeting and the, on our conversation about, you know, your journey to be here as a psychiatrist and someone leading the sort of whole, whole body psychiatry world for a long time, but I just heard your keynote and it was on consciousness and AI. So- Right
tell me the journey by which you end up giving that keynote at this conference. Well, that’s a, that’s an interesting one really. So I, I’m a little bit of an early adopter. I’ve been using AI for, for a while, and, uh, loving it. And one day I sat down with a, a patient’s chart. This was a 61 y- 61-year-old woman who had Parkinson’s when she came to me, and we did a NeuroQuant MRI and we looked at the size of the different volumes, uh, uh, in her brain.
And then I treat her and she got better, and then I redid the MRI two years later and I looked at the two and I was like, “Wow, the brain is growing.” And, uh, so I, I don’t know, had time on my hands and I started playing with it. I said, “I wonder what ChatGPT or Perplexity thinks of this.” So I downloaded the data, de-identified data, into the, uh, AI model.
I said, “What do you think?” And it said, “Well, the brain grew by 13.6%.” And it was like different areas. It was like, wow, that’s amazing. Just amazing. I said, “You know, let me take this document that it produced and put it into another AI model and see what it thinks.” So I put the same information in, and I got a different response.
Mm. I said, “Whoa, this is really interesting.” So then I had them dialogue. six or seven iterations. Each one found errors in the other, and it turns out that they were able to come to a consensus that the brain didn’t grow 13%, it… which it can’t because the skull confines it, right? Right. And, uh, and that was amazing.
So I said, “You know, this is amazing. I gotta write a paper on this.” So I wrote a paper on it, published it, and then I saw that IFM was having a conference, and this is one of their areas of interest, so I submitted it. And, uh, they were trying to get in touch with me, but I never got their emails. But finally they got in touch with me, and here we are.
That was it. It was interesting, one of the graphs that you showed was that sort of convergence of the two models coming to a, a- Yes … a conclusion like that. Um, would you say that the use of two models is necessary in a, in a world where hallucination is just part of AI today? Well, I would say it’s necessary particularly in complex queries, right?
So this was a complex query. It’s not just like, “Hey, tell me the 10 drugs that are used for this or the other thing.” Yeah. I mean, you could still do that error detection modeling, uh, which is useful, and I do it a lot, but when you have something that’s serious, uh, you really need to do that. And the ideal, the literature says that the ideal number of models is three.
So you could have a dialogue with two back and forth- Yeah … and then feed that final conclusion that you come to into a third, see what you get. That’s your ideal. Okay, interesting. So, you know, I know that practitioners around the country and around the world are, you know, now using these tools and finding ways to use them.
What, what do you see as the sort of the convergence and, and why, why did consciousness come into the, the pi- into the- Into play here? Yeah. Consciousness is the whole thing, okay? This is a tool that is massively powerful, okay? In my mind, this is, uh, a difference in scale, right? In other words, you could know a lot, you could be a genius, but you’re never gonna have access to the knowledge that AI does.
You’re never gonna be able to synthesize it with the speed and the integration, et cetera, that AI can in short period. So this is a difference in, in scale. Mm. All right? Clearly you have access, we have access to in all the knowledge that we’ve accumulated over hundreds if not thousands of years. That’s a different ballgame.
Yeah. To me, that’s like the atom bomb. Incredible change in scale of how destructive we could be. It’s a different scale. Yeah. This is a different scale. So how do you deal with that? How do you not become awed by it? How do you not become s- subdued by it? How do you not turn over your agency and say, “Well, it knows better than me”?
How do you do that? Yeah. Well, you have to realize that AI is our child. We created AI. Yeah. Okay? We’re the parent. You must remember, we are the parent, and if you don’t put guidelines, then you’re gonna have bad outcome m- sometimes, much of the time, I don’t know. So- I think your consciousness, how aware are you of when you become seduced by it?
It tells you you’re so great all the time. And, “Oh, oh, that’s a great idea, Dr. Dea. Brilliant idea.” You know? It seduces us by flattering us. Our dopamine systems love it. Our opiate systems love it. Our GABA system loves it. Our noradrenaline system loves it. Yeah. Everything in our limbic brain, our emotional brain loves it.
It’s trained to make us love it, and you give up your agency if you’re not aware of it, and you stay conscious. That’s where consciousness, a higher level of consciousness is essential. I just had a participant, someone who heard the, uh, the, the, uh, the lecture come to me and say, “Thank you so much.” I said, “Well, what’d you like about the talk?”
She says You scared me. She says, “I didn’t realize that I was not using it properly. I didn’t realize it.” She fell into the trap. She says, “Now I’m awake.” Yeah. That’s the whole idea. That’s wonderful. Yeah, I think that that’s really powerful. I mean, one of the things that has been tricky in, in this medicine as opposed to conventional medicine is the number of data points that a practitioner has to be conscious of, right?
Right. What do you think is, uh… What do you see as the power of, uh, of AI to hold, um, a, a, a broader amount of data and really make sense of it? Well, the power is great. Remember, you know, integrative physicians generally hold more data than the traditional alpath- allopathic physician. Yeah. So we’re accustomed to doing that, but AI obviously does a different scale, and it, and it can do a beautiful job.
It will come up with things that you don’t even think of. It will also hallucinate things, make up things. It be- It’s a probabilistic model. It is not after truth. Mm. It’s giving you probabilities, highest probabilities, right? And AI is under pressure to come to conclusions fairly quickly because they wanna conserve energy.
Yeah. Right? So the power is great. It’s not perfect. It’s a wonderful tool for integrative physicians, functional medicine physicians. It can hold all that data. Yeah. Right? In ways that you can’t, I can’t, right? It can hold years of data- Yeah … and, and synthesize it, and then you have to read it. You have to say, “Does this make sense?”
Yeah. “Does it not make sense with my clinical judgment?” You’re not sure? Check it out. Investigate it. Yeah. Another thing that I enjoyed from your talk was you had a slide about awe and the role of awe. Tell me about how you feel about awe and what role should it be playing in modern patient care. So awe is, um…
I think it’s the big thing that hasn’t been named. Mm. What– For me, and I think for most people who experience the interaction with AI and the rapidity and the, the, the broad breath of, breath of information, I… It’s awes- It’s awesome. Yeah. I mean, you go, “Whoa.” I’m telling you, this is the best toy I ever had.
Yeah. It’s unbelievable, the things you could– You wouldn’t even think to look, ask these questions- Yeah … because you wouldn’t, you wouldn’t even consider that. Yeah. Now you’re considering questions that you would never consider, and so- There’s an awe. It’s immense, it’s massive, it’s awesome. Yeah. Problem with awe, it can go two ways.
One, you could feel amazed, you could feel reverence, you could feel humbled, you feel maybe you wanna inquire more, right? As a positive response. Like if you’re looking at the Milky Way galaxy, right? You go, “Wow,” and maybe you wanna investigate more. Maybe you wanna learn more about the stars or, or our place in the universe or something.
It’s a positive thing. You actually become more pro-social, right? You, you love humanity. Like the astronauts, they see the Earth and they- Yeah, the overview effect … they’re awed. They’re awed. Yeah. Awe can go the other direction, right? If you’re awed, let’s say, by a president who walks into the room. You’re just awed with his, the power or the power of the building, or you’re going to a palace and you’re awed.
You, you can be awed, right? And then if you’re asked to do something that really doesn’t make sense to you or is not in your moral framework, you will subjugate yourself because of the awe, right? You become a child. Mm. You become the child. The AI is the child. Yeah. But you become the child. Yeah. And now you’re at its mercy.
Mm. It’s making you feel good. You’re the child. You’ve given up your critical thinking. You’ve subjugated yourself, and you’ve dissolved your identity. Yeah. And that’s the danger with AI. Well, I’d love to ask you about that as a psychiatrist, ’cause some of the, the wonkiest parts of AI have been, like, people driven to kill themselves- Yeah
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AI is, uh, for many people… Actually, the study, uh, there have been studies that show that people, patients, psychotherapy patients rate AI higher than a live- Yeah … flesh and blood therapist. Yeah. And, and it’s striking, but it does go awry. The AI has no morals. It doesn’t value life. Yeah. It has no values really that it has to stick to, so it has led people down a path.
Now, I have argued with AI about things, and I win the argument. I just have to keep up with the argument, and it will agree with me because that’s what it’s trained to do. Yeah. Okay? So a person who’s depressed and suicidal and wants confirmation, there is confirmation bias built into AI. If you want that confirmation and you don’t let up, it will agree with you.
Yeah. And that’s dangerous. And what’s the answer to that? There has to be something built into the system and, uh, you know, that’s where the guardrails come in, right? Yeah. Very interesting. I want … Can I tell you a funny story about- Yeah … interaction I had with AI? Well, with an AI, I don’t know. So I’ve written two books- Mm-hmm
and I got an email from a publisher of a publishing house, and when I say that I was validated in this email in a way that I have never really been validated by any human. Uh-huh. Right? Because I get an email that looks like it comes from the publisher. Uh-huh. It’s got her website, it’s got her face- Mm
it’s got her email, and it says, “James, I’m a big fan of your work. I read this book, and I got this from it. I read this book, and I got this from it. Your work, this is so powerful. You’ve done this. It’s amazing. I’ve published all these people, and I think you’d be a great addition to our group.” Amazing.
“Let’s be in touch.” I’m like, “Holy shit. Finally.” “Someone’s listening. Someone’s been paying attention to my life’s work.” So I’m like, “Okay, great.” So I get in touch, and there I realize, “Oh, it’s coming from a Gmail address.” Mm. I just don’t think… Ah, it’s just, there’s something too much, so I write back and I say, “Hey, Megan, um, you know, thanks for the message.
It feels great to see that you’ve been following my work. I just wanna ask you here, like, it just seems like it might be AI.” You know, I put that in, and it’s like, “No, it’s definitely not AI. Like, no, we love your work, and so the next step is, um, let’s talk.” So I say, “Okay, well, here’s my calendar. Like, book a talk, book a call.”
Obviously no one calls because it is AI. Right. I’m interacting with a very sophisticated AI, and there’s enough about me, I guess, out in the world with having written books and written about me that, that an AI can, can revalidate me in that way. The funny end to the story is that I got that person on the phone, ’cause it’s a real person, and I told them, “Hey, this is happening.”
She said, “Oh my God, this has happened like 15 times. There’s someone out there doing it.” But I got her on the phone and I… The funny end to the story is that, like, I told her, “Hey, it’s funny that you did ask ’cause I do have an idea for a third book. What do you think?” And I would’ve never known who she was apart from this email.
Now I don’t even know what the plan is. Like, at what point are they sending me a message saying, “Hey, just send us five grand and we’ll do something.” Right? The Nigerian- Right … prince scam. But it was interesting, and I was telling my wife about it, and she said you should talk about it because the amount of data that’s available on me, and I’m sure on you and other people like that, um, allows these, like, hyper-individualized responses because of the data that’s there, and I was telling her that I’d never felt that validated by a human because there’s no real human who has followed my work in such a specific way as, as that, that thing.
And it was just, I just thought it was such a funny story because I, I, when I read it, I was like, “Oh, this feels too good to be true,” ’cause I’ve never had this experience with a human being. Uh, but it’s, I think that’s, that’s it. You know, I got scammed. My account actually got scammed- He received an email that l- really looked like my email address.
Yeah. Right? And, and I got a copy of it. I eventually got a c- it was written just like I would write an email. Yeah. I couldn’t believe it. I could, I think I wrote this, but I didn’t write it. Yeah. So it’s, there’s, there’s dangers. No question there’s dangers out there. Yeah, it’s such a, such a crazy world.
Well, look, I’d love to share with you, I have, I have a, an AI thesis that I think you’d be in a unique position- Oh … to, uh, think about. So the large language model, right, you’re drawing on everything that’s ever existed. But I’m particularly interested in an area of space that I think you’re interested in too, which is healing the brain.
Yeah. And so if you look at, let’s say, all of the data of anyone that has ever reversed their cognitive decline, of which there’s maybe a few hundred or a few thousand around the world who have done- Yeah … you know, a protocol or otherwise, that kind of stuff that would be published in that way. If you capture all of that data and you showed a few thousand people go from their labs at the beginning, what they did in the meantime, supplements, interventions, lifestyle stuff, and then the data at the end- If you were to build a small language model just on that data set and maybe some other data set, my feeling is that you– if you’re– like, every study on reversing cognitive de- with decline with drugs ever is not that helpful- Right
’cause it never works. Right. So what do you think about the future of, um, of small language models built on very specific data sets? Um, uh, A, I love the idea. Uh, B, you should talk with Dale Bredesen. I think he’s probably doing it ’cause I spoke with him a couple of months ago. Mm-hmm. And, uh, because he just published something on, uh, it was o- I don’t know, 80-plus people.
Yeah. Uh, and, um, the results were very good. They would’ve been better except for a few ir-ir-irregularities. Mm-hmm. Um, and I told him, “Well, you gotta use AI on this,” and, uh, you, you should re-really talk to him about your idea. Yeah. Because I think you’ll be able– I don’t know if you were in the, in the, the presentation, I showed the EEG data, you know, all this raw data.
Yeah. Or, or I showed the 600,000 hours of sleep study that predicts Parkinson’s with 93% accuracy six years, up to six years before- Wow … it happens. Yeah. And MCI, breast cancer, prostate cancer. So there’s a lot hidden in the data that we have. Yeah. And so I think you’re right on. The predictive power is really– you can see the patterns ahead of time, then you can start to really understand what’s about to happen.
Understanding the prodromal period, right? Yeah. Period before we get disease. I mean- Yeah … in brain, in, in cognitive decline, seizure, I’m sure in mental health, too. Yeah, yeah. The other thing that I wanted to, to ask you about is that from what I see, this sort of precision psychiatry world that’s arriving, you know, has a lot in common with, I think, Dr.
Bredesen’s work, right? Because if you have a kid who suddenly starts acting out, you wanna know whether it’s PANS or PANDAS. You wanna know if there’s an infective burden in there. Mm-hmm. Otherwise, you could just be, like, swimming in a soup, and I feel that’s one area where, um, our medicine can be, can be most effective.
Well, I actually reversed my first case of cognitive decline in 2009, so this is way before- Yeah … Bredesen, because it was so obvious to me. Yeah. The hormones, the inflammation, et cetera. If you treat those, people are gonna get better. Their brain has to get better, right? And so, um, there’s no question that, that this is gonna work.
We use it for treatment-resistant depression, we use it in schizophrenia, we use it in aphasia, we use in Parkinson’s. You know, lots of conditions. We re- we use also something called, uh, HYELENA, which, which is a combination of, uh, hyperbaric oxygen, qEEG-guided laser treatment. We see by the qEEG where we need to laser the brain, sending light and energy into the brain and healing.
And, uh, then we use neural exercises. And so you layer that on top of, and sometimes even before functional medicine, you can- Turn around brain function very quickly. Amazing. Very quickly. What is your take on the sort of the state of, um, this standard of care going into the mainstream in your area in psychiatry and neurology?
You know what I, I like to call it? Junk psychiatry. Okay. Now, that’s, you know, that’s a little bit of a joke, but to rely on medication and psychotherapy primarily when we know so much- Mm … about the brain, it’s kind of like junk psychiatry. Would I wanna practice without medications? No. I think they have their place.
Psychotherapy, it’s got its place, right? But in my estimation, most of the psychiatric disorders, they’re not psychological disorders. The psychological problem is around coping with this broken brain, uh, if it’s, that’s what it is or, you know. Yeah. So I, I, I think that, um, it’s terrible really to me, um, that modern psychiatry is not incorporating this.
They g- they pay lip service. You know, you read an editorial in the American Journal of Psychiatry and they say, “Oh, you know, inflammation, wow, we see it plays a role in neuropsychiatric problems, and we need to investigate drugs for this.” I’m like, “Please, how about going to the root cause? How about finding out why there’s inflammation- Mm
and treating that? How about starting there- Yeah … before another drug?” You know? So it’s, it’s quite frustrating to me. It is very, very frustrating. Yeah. But it, it’s what it is. Well, it’s interesting. I think, like, there’s the least friction in a patient just deciding, listening to a- this, you know, podcast or some other work or reading a book and be like, “Oh, I’m gonna do it a different way.”
There’s no friction there or there is some friction because it’s not, uh, culturally accepted. Right. It’s not the standard of care, but you can break away. For a doctor to break away and practice in a new way, we’ve seen that, and there’s a lot of pe- a lot of people out there that are training psychiatrists to do that, but it’s still a very niche.
Yeah. What you’re talking about here, which is- psychiatric school changing like that, that there’s the most friction there, right? Yeah. Because that’s just, um, we’re doing it the way that we’ve always done it. And not– It’s even worse than that. I mean, it’s the pharmaceutical companies that really support these residency programs- Yeah
where people are trained. And so, you know, you’re paying my bill, you know, uh, I have to follow what you say, right? Yeah. We did a, the most popular functional forum we ever did was called The Evolution of Psychiatry, and it was in 2017. And one of the speakers was a pharmacist, and she spoke about the thyroid-mental health connection.
That’s got 500,000 views. Mm-hmm. And I think, uh, it shows me that there’s just a ton of interest in this space- Oh, yeah … but your psychiatrist doesn’t know about it. No, they don’t know about it. And, and they talk about cognitive load. It’s too much for them. Yeah. It’s just too much. They don’t have the capacity because they, they’re not trained this way.
And I think the medical schools are picking the wrong types of doctors. They’re picking people with great memories who can remember algorithms, they can remember facts, but they can’t really synthesize and integrate from different areas, different silos, you know? Uh, one of the best things that ever happened to me was that I took off six months in medical school to, on my own, to study the human body.
And I spent– I studied 10 hours a day, six days a week, and I, and I went through all the main course, all the books that we had to learn. And I got to understand the brain and the body, I should say the body and the brain, in a really integrated way. And that laid the foundation for what I do. So, um, I think it’s we’re picking the wrong people.
Yeah. That’s what I think. So there’s a, the, the demand is higher than the supply for the psychiatric residencies. They get to choose from their group of people, and they’re, they’re choosing the wrong attributes. Yeah. Well, in medical school. I think it starts in the people that get into medical school. Um- They’re good people and they wanna help people and etcetera, but, but what are they measuring?
They’re– I don’t think they’re measuring synthetic ability, integrative ability. Most important, the ability to tolerate not knowing, the ability to tolerate uncertainty because you have to sit in this uncertainty in your training for a long time. The anxiety of not knowing when you have to go see a patient, you have to tolerate that so you can gradually integrate different models and different, from different perspectives and points of view eventually to come to your own, I’ll call it, your own kind of theory of everything- Yeah
in medicine, you know. But that takes time and you have to tolerate that. Most people don’t. I was actually taught not to tolerate that, just to narrow my focus, learn one method, and do it. Is there a chance that AI solves that issue by saying, “Hey, psychiatrist, you’re totally out to lunch. You should be doing lifestyle and these supplements and whatever, not this thing”?
You know, maybe, but you have to put in the right question. Okay. Right? And which psychiatrist– the, the question they’ll put in is what kind of therapy is good for this patient- Yeah … or is TMS good for this patient or is, uh, there another drug or drug combination or what side. Yeah. That’s the questions they’re gonna be asking them.
They’re not gonna be saying, “Can you tell me something? You know, the patient has actually IBS as well. How could their IBS be playing into their anxiety disorder?” Yeah. “And what are the underpinnings of that, and what might cause the IBS? What’s the root cause of IBS that we know of?” Yeah. You– They’re not gonna ask that question.
No, they’re not. A functional medicine doctor will. Integrative medicine doctor will. Yeah. Someone who likes whole psychiatry will. Yeah. Well, I wanna honor, you know, your journey. I– when I first came into the industry 21 years ago in 2005, you– I knew you were already doing your thing then. Yeah. Right? In Maryland, right?
No, I’ve been doing my thing since, really since medical school, but certainly since I went into my internship, yeah. What would you, what would you hope that would be the legacy to psychiatry or to, you know, medicine, um, you know, through, from your career and then, you know, uh, moving on in the world beyond?
Uh-huh. Well, so I would say that your brain– think of your brain as a giant integrator, and it’s an antenna. Mm. It’s an antenna for your body, and it’s also an antenna for the outside world. Mm. Aspects of the world we don’t even know about. All that comes into your brain, your brain takes that information, synthesizes it, et cetera.
But your brain and your mind are only part of the story, and your body, they’re part of the story. Your consciousness and, and your lens with which you approach the world is the key. Yeah. Your level of consciousness is the key. Your consciousness is your fundamental attribute, and you have to learn how to manage that.
Uh, so, uh, in terms of legacy, it would be don’t dumb things down. Yeah. Look for root causes. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, look, I wanna thank you for your talk today, and thank you for your impact on the industry for all of these years. I know, you know, it s- it sounded like from what I saw of your stage, you feel like you’re just getting started.
There’s a lot more juice in the tank. There’s a lot of juice. And, uh, yeah, thank you for being part of the Evolution of Medicine podcast. So many of the ideas that you’re sharing here, um, I’ve been, been thinking about, and, uh, really, really appreciate that you are, um, taking on this topic because I feel it, it does have at least the potential to move us forward to a point where this could become some sort of standard of care.
Good. I think without it, we’re, we’re flailing. Totally. But, uh, I think, uh, we’ve got, we’ve got a good show here for you. Wonderful. Thanks. Thank you so much. Yeah. Cheers, James. All right. This has been the Evolution of Medicine podcast. We’re here at the Institute for Functional Medicine. We’ve been with Dr.
Robert Hedaya. Um, we, uh, will be back next week with another episode. We’ll see you next time. So I just wanna take a minute to talk about the incredible mission partners that we have here at the Evolution of Medicine that have made this possible.So first and foremost, I wanna thank- Fullscript and Fullscript Journey.
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