IMMH 2026 Preview: From Personal Story to Agent of Change

In this episode, host James Maskell sits down with Kirkland Newman, founder of MindHealth360 and Executive Director of the IMMH (Integrative Medicine for Mental Health) conference.

Newman’s path into integrative mental health began with her own experience of severe postpartum depression after both of her pregnancies. Offered only antidepressants by her psychiatrist – with no explanation for why she was suddenly experiencing panic attacks, anxiety, insomnia, and depression – she sought answers from an OBGYN, an endocrinologist, two GPs, and multiple psychiatrists, none of whom investigated further. Her own research led her to hormone specialists, a functional-medicine-oriented nutritionist, and eventually to Sarah Gottfried’s work on adrenal and HPA-axis dysfunction. She discovered she had significant hormonal imbalances, nutritional deficiencies (low omega-3s, B vitamins, vitamin D), heavy metal toxicity, and gluten intolerance –none of which had ever been screened for, despite clear symptoms including cardiac ectopic beats that went uninvestigated for a thyroid cause.

Frustrated that this root-cause approach wasn’t part of mainstream care, Newman founded MindHealth360 to provide free resources and a global practitioner database, launched a podcast interviewing leading integrative mental health practitioners, and eventually took over the IMMH conference from its founder, Dr. Shaw. Under her leadership, the conference has grown from 50 attendees in 2009 to around 2,000 in-person and virtual attendees today.

Maskell and Newman discuss the shifting landscape of psychiatry – a groundswell of patient-driven demand for root-cause approaches meeting growing frustration among practitioners with the limits of psych medications – along with the broader convergence of psychiatry and neurology into what some are calling “brain medicine.” Newman outlines her framework for sustainable mental health treatment across three domains: the biochemical (hormones, nutrition, gut health, infections, inflammation, genetics), the psychosocial/spiritual (relationships, chronic stress, trauma, ACEs), and the lifestyle/behavioral (sunlight, exercise, sleep).

The episode closes with a preview of this year’s IMMH conference, taking place October 8–11 in San Diego, featuring speakers including Robert Lustig, Bessel van der Kolk, Dick Schwartz, Robin Carhart-Harris, Dale Bredesen, Kat Toups, Richard Horowitz, and James Greenblatt, with tracks spanning trauma, addiction, eating disorders, hormones, sleep, neurodegeneration, and psychoneuroimmunology, and up to 40–45 CE credits available.

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About the Guest:
Kirkland Newman is the founder of MindHealth360, a free global resource platform and practitioner database for integrative mental health, and Executive Director of the IMMH (Integrative Medicine for Mental Health) conference. Her own experience with severe postpartum depression – and the lack of answers from conventional medicine – led her on a personal healing journey into functional medicine, hormonal health, and nutritional psychiatry. She has since built IMMH into one of the leading conferences in the field, growing it from 50 attendees to roughly 2,000, and hosts a podcast interviewing leading integrative practitioners in mental health from around the world.

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About the Host:
James Maskell is a healthcare entrepreneur and founder of The Evolution of Medicine. For over 20 years, he has worked to scale functional medicine through community-driven models, group visits, and practitioner infrastructure. His work focuses on moving medicine upstream – toward prevention, lifestyle intervention, and systems-based care.

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I think that’s so important, and that’s one of the things that I’m really trying hard to do, which is build a community, right? Build a community that can support each other. So we have MDs, DOs, nurse practitioners, physician associates. We have nutritionists, naturopaths, acupuncturists, chiropractors, psychologists, psychotherapists.

So anyone who works in any way with patients with mental health, and that’s frankly most people, so even if you’re a gynecologist or, you know, you’re… There is always gonna be a mental health component. But it’s bringing together all these different practitioners who can then create this community which can look at all the different angles, almost like an MDT, you know, a multidisciplinary team.

Welcome, Kiki. How are you? I’m good. Thank you so much, James. Thanks for having me. I’m really excited to jump into, you know, the journey that you’re taking with integrative medicine and mental health, and the leadership that you provided there. You know, we got to know each other a few years ago where, you know, you stepped forward as a, as a leader to coordinate practitioners in London with, uh, some of the early functional forum events there.

But, you know, your passion is functional medicine, but really on the mental health side. So let’s just start from there. How did that, how did that come about, and what led you to put yourself front- So basically, I had postpartum depression after both my boys, and I was, you know, offered Prozac. I was offered all sorts of different antidepressants and sleeping pills.

And the first time I didn’t take them, and the second time my depression was a lot worse, so I did actually take them. And I had a really bad reaction to these drugs, and I found them… You know, they made me much more tired, and they messed up my skin and my hair, and they actually made me more depressed.

And so I said to my psychiatrist, “Look, I really don’t wanna be on these meds, and, you know, what can I do instead of this?” And she said, “Oh, you’re gonna be on these indefinitely.” This was a psychiatrist in London. And I said, “But I’ve never been on any sort of psychiatric meds before. Like, why now?” And she just had no answers for me whatsoever.

And of all the different practitioners that I saw, I saw my OBGYN, I saw an endocrinologist, I saw two GPs, I saw two psychiatrists. You know, none of them had any answers as to why I was having these issues with my mental health. I had panic attacks, I had anxiety, I had insomnia, I had depression. And, you know, no one could give me any answers.

And so I went on my own healing journey. I discovered Suzanne Somers’ book, Breakthroughs, which- It’s all- Old school, which got me started, and I traveled to Belgium. I went to see Thierry Hertoghe, the hormone specialist, and he said, “You need to be on all these hormones.” And I thought, “Okay, that’s a little excessive.”

So I came back to London, and I found this endocrinologist in London who was doing female hormones, Marion Gluck. She’s a GP, but, uh, Jan Toledano was her endocrinologist. And they said, “Okay, well, you know, let’s start looking at what sort of hormones you’re missing.” And of course, it made sense. I mean, you know, here I was postpartum, and of course I had hormonal imbalances.

And then I started working with a nutritionist who said that I had heavy metal toxicity and gluten intolerance and, you know, and adrenal issues. I mean, I basically, I’d been just… I had a very high-powered career before the babies, and then basically when the kids were born, I was in the middle of doing a master’s, and it was just all a lot on my system.

And I wasn’t properly supported. And I had, you know, low omega-3s, I had low vitamin B, low D, et cetera. So there were a lot of nutritional d- deficiencies and other sort of biochemical imbalances, including the hormonal imbalances, which really explained that, you know, I had these imbalances in my moods and my anxiety, et cetera.

What really got me was that none of my conventional doctors had ever suggested even doing like a thyroid panel, and I went to see a cardiologist because I was having all these ectopic beats. And he put a halter on me for 24 hours. He said, “Yeah, you’re having a lot of ectopic beats, but they’re benign and we don’t know what causes them.”

Well, you know, he didn’t check my thyroid or didn’t even say, “You should check your thyroid,” and I was six months post-postpartum. So I just felt, you know… And then gradually, as I discovered functional medicine and I started working with Sarah Gottfried and her webinars in California, this was back in 2011.

And I discovered adrenal issues and the dysfunction in the HPA axis, et cetera, and I thought, “Why do more people not know about this?” I mean, this is crazy. Like I was offered all these psych meds, and yet there were very clear biochemical root causes as to why I was having these symptoms, and no one was addressing them.

So having discovered functional medicine, I then educated myself as much as possible. I did all the webinars. I went to the first IMMH, Integrative Medicine for Mental Health conference in 2011. First for me, it started in 2009. I listened to James Greenblatt talk, you know, who’s a conventional psychiatrist, talking about, you know, nutritional approaches to psychiatry and to mental health.

And I thought, “Why do more people not know about this?” And this is crazy. So I made it my mission to then really educate and go to all the conferences, find out whatever I could, find out who the key people were. And I really wanted to bring this to the mainstream because I thought, you know, we– this is a root cause, personalized precision approach that is absolutely necessary to sustainably heal mental health and is absolutely not available in mainstream treatments for mental health.

And so I started Mind Health 360, which was a website to provide resources, free resources around integrative mental health and functional medicine psychiatry. It has a global database of practitioners. It has all your, you know, what are your symptoms, what are the potential causes, and what are the potential treatments?

I then started a podcast interviewing all the leading integrative practitioners in mental health from around the world. And then I took over IMMH, which is a conference that I’d been going to for seven years, and when Dr. Shaw retired, I basically, um, took it over from him. So I’ve been running it now this is my fourth year.

It’s taking place in San Diego from the 8th to the 11th of October. And the movement has really grown from, you know, 400… Well, e- essentially when it started, it was 50 people in a room in 2009, and now we have around 2,000 in person and virtual, which is a testament to, I think, two things. One, the increasing interest in integrative approaches, root cause approaches, and the recognition of the need for much more precision, personalized root cause approaches to mental health.

And second of all, I think also the crisis in global mental health, which, you know, in September of last year marked over a billion people in the world are now struggling with mental health and according to the WHO. So there’s a real need to revolutionize mental health and make it more root cause, and look at the three areas which I always say, you know, there are three areas that you have to look at in mental health.

The biochemical, so hormones, nutrition, gut, infections, inflammation, genetics. The psychosocial, spiritual, so your relationships, your chronic stress, your trauma, your ACEs. And your lifestyle behavioral, so exposure to sunlight, exercise, sleep, et cetera. And only by looking at those three areas can you sustainably heal mental health.

So that’s my mission. Sorry, that was very long-winded, but I’m very passionate about it. Yeah, no, I see that and I, I’ve experienced it and, you know, uh, I guess one of the things that I’d love to ask you about is that, you know, the, your journey sort of reflects, I guess, the place that we are in that, like, I think on an individual level, there’s never been more interest in any of the things that you’re talking about, sort of like the psychosocial stuff, you know, the getting your own labs.

You know, that’s a big push now in the UK and in the US. But, you know, you’re dealing with essentially, you know, one of the most conservative specialties in psychiatry, essentially, right? And I guess, you know, you’ve created this conference specifically for, you know, mental health professionals and hopefully a lot of psychiatrists to come through and see what’s new.

How do you, how do you see that sort of juxtaposition of the interest on the personal level, but still a lot of resistance, a lot of psychiatrists still, you know, only using psych meds as their only tools even to this day? I mean, it’s a really good question. I think things are changing because– And I think, you know, one of my ambitions was to really drive a revolution from the ground up.

So by educating those suffering from mental health issues, their friends, their families, and their health practitioners, you create a groundswell of demand so that practitioners would have to listen, right? So you have so many patients now going to their practitioners saying, “Hey, you know, I’ve heard it could be a zinc-copper thing,” or, “It could be a B12 deficiency,” or, “It could be,” or, “It could be Lyme disease.”

You know, by educating people at, lay people at a sort of very basic level, I think, you know, you really then create a demand which then creates a momentum in the practitioner body. But then also top-down, you also have increasing frustration on the part of a lot of practitioners who are not able to, you know, find solutions for their patients, and they’re basically frustrated by the lack of progress of their patients on psych meds.

Because let’s face it, psych meds treat the symptoms, not the causes, right? And so I think practitioners who are ethical, and most of them are, are frustrated by this and really want to be able to give their patients something that’s more substantial, more sustainable, and they realize that what they’re offering in the way of psych meds and maybe some CBT is insufficient to really get them sustainably better.

And so there’s a growing awareness and interest amongst that practitioner body, um Uh, around integrative approaches and functional medicine. You know, they’re interested in, okay, you can do lab tests to measure different markers, you know. And so the conventional idea that depression has no biomarkers or mental health has no biomarkers and it’s only symptoms-based according to the DSM, you know, we now know that that’s not true.

There are biomarkers that are very clearly correlated with depression and anxiety. And so yes, some of it, you know, a lot of it is correlation. But y- we also know that Lyme disease and mold exposure and, you know, these infections, et cetera, can cause chronic neuroinflammation. And we know that neuroinflammation is one of the main drivers of psychiatric and neurological symptoms.

And so there’s a growing awareness amongst practitioners that, you know, we n- they need to do better, they want to do better. And so there’s an increasing curiosity about what’s out there, and they’re finding that functional medicine, integrative approaches with their lab tests, with their supplements, with the much more precision modalities which are also more personalized, are actually much more satisfying.

And so I really believe there’s a groundswell of interest. And as the evidence comes in, and there’s a lot of scientific evidence behind this. You know, PubMed is full of these research. Now, you know, probably not enough because a lot of these, um, these things, you know, you can’t patent vitamin C, you can’t– There, there’s a whole sort of commercial angle which we all know, which is hard to get over.

You know, uh, the smallest RCT trial costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. But the point is there’s increasing evidence out there in of the importance of this approach and the ef- efficacy of this approach, and the fact that, you know, there are biomarkers. Neuroinflammation can be measured, can be treated, and that there are a lot of, whether it’s hormonal imbalances, or whether it’s neurotransmitter imbalances, or whether it’s toxins or pathogens.

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Yeah. Well, I would say, you know, for practitioners that I’ve spoken to, like a case of say like PANDAS, right? Where a child goes into, you know, acute psychiatric issues from almost nothing. And, you know, then nothing brings them back because they don’t have the right toolkit to then, you know, get a test to see that there’s an infection in there, deal with the infection, and then it completely goes away.

You know, that level of, what would you say, elegance of a solution where it’s like a permanent solution to something that looked untreatable, you know, is the kind of experience that I think both mental health professionals see and psych- you know, psych- uh, psychiatry see, where it’s like once you’ve seen that, you can’t go back.

You, you have to go and practice in a new way, and I’m really glad that you’ve created a place for that. You know, as I’ve been to IMMH the last few years since you brought it back in person, both in San Diego, the DC event, you know, I see that there’s sort of like there’s the integrated mental health side.

There’s sort of like a pretty clear functional medicine piece. There’s a particularly, like, a brain health piece. You know, you’ve always had Dr. Bredesen and Kat Toups and others, you know, on that side of things. And then, you know, then you’ve also had the psychedelic elements. How do you, how do you sort of choose how to bring all of those things together?

Because I think the future of mental health that we see in common is at the center of all of those things, but how do you sort of choose which parts of those to bring into, you know, a certain conference? Such a good question. And you know, when you’re doing the programming, it’s always so challenging to get the balance right.

When I took over IMMH, it was much more functional medicine, so it was about sort of, you know, gut, brain, you know, stool tests. So originally, the conference was designed to explain to practitioners how to use Great Plains Lab’s test, right? So it was very biochemical, and when I took it over, I wanted to widen the remit and have the biochemical, but also bring in the whole trauma piece, which is why I had Gabor Mate.

This year we have Bessel van der Kolk, we have Dick Schwartz. Because, you know, th- I think it’s so important to have those three areas, to have the biochemical, but also to have the psychosocial, spiritual, and the lifestyle behavioral, because you cannot treat mental health in isolation. And so being able to bring all these different approaches, and then of course the neurological piece as well, because psychiatry is one thing, and of course I was brought to this through my own postpartum depression, which was a psychiatric issue.

But n- since then, I’ve had interesting neurological symptoms due to exposure to mold, which has made me super interested in that whole neurological piece of neurodegeneration. And so that’s a super important piece, and then the trauma piece, which feeds into both. And so, you know, to me, you can’t look at any in isolation, and it’s really important to try to represent a balanced approach to all these things so that there’s a smorgasbord of these different modalities that any practitioner going to IMMH can say, “Okay, fine.

Let’s test the urine. Let’s look at the hormones. Let’s look at the metabolites through an oat test,” or, you know, “Let’s look at a stool test and the gut, what the gut is up to. But then, uh, also let’s look at what might be contributing th- to this. Let’s look at people’s relationships. Let’s look at pe-” people’s childhood trauma, look at their nervous system.

I think the nervous system piece is so important, and increasingly we’re understanding that mental health problems, whether they’re psychiatric or neurological, have to do with the dysregulation or regulation of someone’s nervous system. And, you know, we know now, for instance, that people who get Lyme disease or who get mold poisoning tend to have childhood trauma.

And so there’s a car- you know, you can’t separate the two, and I think that’s, or the three, and I think, or the many. You know, to me, that’s the key is that it’s, we have to really look at this from a systems perspective, from a whole person perspective of, you know, what are your relationships doing? What’s your inflammation?

Is your inflammation due to a pathogen, or is it due to childhood trauma, or maybe both because the two are linked? And I’ve really tried hard to keep a balanced representation of all these different pieces at this conference. I was reading an article yesterday that is relevant to this where there was, uh, some organization that had bought a network of clinics that were doing, I think, you know, TMS.

And, you know, the commentary was the interesting part where they were saying that what they see is a sort of a movement away from psychiatry and neurology as just like independent silos, but to talk more broadly about brain medicine. And I think that, like, that reinforced the process that you’ve taken, which is like it’s called Integrated Medicine for Mental Health.

Why is Dale Bredesen, you know, speaking? And it’s because, you know, Dale is on the cutting edge of really understanding how to keep a healthy brain. And for some people, you know, that shows up as, that shows up as a mental health issue. For some people, that shows up as early cognitive decline or cognitive decline.

Ultimately, it’s the same brain, it’s the same stresses, and I’ve actually had some of my big aha moments that I’ve had over the last few years of being at IMMH. I remember listening to Chris Palmer talk, and he was talking about the sort of drivers of mental health issues, and obviously he’s known for metabolic inflammation and metabolic psychiatry, but he was talking about toxins and mold and these other things, and I was like, “This is exactly, you know, what Dr.

Bredesen’s talking about,” you know, driving these different areas. So what we need is a scalable delivery of something that can identify these areas and, you know, and deal with them. And for some people, they’ll be able to access that through consumer-facing tools. But with severe psy- you know, psychiatric illness and with cognitive decline, you literally can’t do it to yourself.

You need a team of people to do it, and it seems like, you know, your conference is building those teams of the future. I think that’s so important, and that’s one of the things that I’m really trying hard to do, which is build a community, right? Build a community that can support each other. So we have MDs, DOs, nurse practitioners, physician associates.

We have nutritionists, naturopaths, acupuncturists, chiropractors, psychologists, psychotherapists. So anyone who works in any way with patients with mental health, and that’s frankly most people, so even if you’re a gynecologist or, you know, you’re… There is always gonna be a mental health component. But it’s bringing together all these different practitioners who can then create this community which can look at all the different angles, almost like an MDT, you know, a multidisciplinary team.

And I think that’s one of the strengths and the beauties of IMMH, is to have this amazing community of practitioners who can then feed off each other, who can help each other, and the patient benefits from having these different perspectives, essentially, and different angles of approach. And, you know, because there’s always gonna be need for n- a n- a good nutritional approach and a good, you know, say you’re being treated by a psychiatrist, you might need also an OBGYN to look at the hormones and the nutrition and, you know, and then some therapy, some…

And how can these people work together to de- develop, you know, and deliver the best solutions for their patients? Because all these angles have to be taken into account. And I think that’s a real strength, is, you know, being a, that sort of excitement and energy that’s created when you get all these different practitioners in a room.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, look, take us up to this year. You know, I found in DC when I showed up there, we made a, a functional forum from it, so you can actually go back and you can, you can view that and you can see some of the interviews we did with Chris Palmer and others. It’s an amazing show. You know, last year I was there, and I had an opportunity in San Diego to listen to some of the sessions.

Really enjoyed. You know, I actually had a, again, like a, a moment of clarity in that first year with me with, was with Chris Palmer, where I realized, like, the drivers were the same. You know, last year was the first time that I heard Dr. Bredesen talk about Alzheimer’s as network insufficiency. That, as someone who’s written a book on, you know, social network insufficiency, really got me fired up for, you know, that theme, and so that was really powerful, and I’m looking forward to, you know, getting this year’s jolt of inspiration.

So what have you got lined up for us in October this year? So we’ve got some really great talks. I mean, we have Robert Lustig and Elissa Epel. So Elissa Epel is the Other author of the telomere, uh, book which was all about longevity and telomeres. So they’re talking about mitochondria, about stress, about metabolism, and they’re– I’m really looking forward to their talk and the amygdala and how that can impact your metabolism and your mitochondria.

We have Bessel van der Kolk who will be talking about trauma and, you know, the sort of biology of trauma, and his whole team from the Trauma Research Foundation. So Lisha Sky, who will talk about embodiment and trauma, Wendy D’Andrea, who’s absolutely wonderful, who leads the science on his Trauma Research Foundation, Mike Nick- Ninkinchuk, Marlene Gonzalez, who will all be talking about trauma in the context of, you know, society and war-torn areas, but also the biochemical effects of trauma.

We have Robin Carhart-Harris who will be talking about psychedelics, and also a panel on psychedelics with Dick Schwartz and Robin, um, Will Vanderveer, and some real experts. We have an addiction panel with Hila Cass and Rob Lustig and Arwin Podesta who will be talking about addiction. Naysha Winters will be talking about cancer and mental health and trauma and mental health.

We have Dick Schwartz, the founder of IFS, who will be talking about, you know, IFS and its impact in mental health treatment, and he’s also doing a talk on relationships, uh, which I’m very excited about because he wrote this wonderful book called “You Are the One You’ve Been Looking For,” and so it’s gonna be a slightly different angle.

We have Alison Harvey from Berkeley who will be talking about sleep. We have Felice Gersh talking about hormones. We have Dale Bredesen and Kat Toups and Richard Horowitz, who will be doing a whole afternoon on neurodegeneration, and I’m very excited about that. Richard Horowitz has just published his book on chronic complex illness, and his specialty obviously is Lyme and, and sort of infections.

We have a whole morning on psychoneuroimmunology with Dr. Jill Carnahan, Dr. Neil Nathan. We have an afternoon on metabolic psychiatry with Matt Bernstein, and he’s got a wonderful panel with some amazing people who’ve completely turned around their schizophrenia and their bipolar using ketogenic approach.

We’ve got Youssef Aleman who will be talking about cardiometabolic approaches to mental health. We have a morning on neurodevelopment. We have Eliza Song, um, Chris Winfrey. We have Dr. Shaw, the founder of IMMH. I’m sure I’m forgetting so many people, but we have such a wonderful Just such a wonderful lineup this year.

We also have, we have James Greenblatt, of course, who’s talking about OCD, and we also have a panel on eating disorders with Jeanne Cantarazza Cantanzaro Schwartz, who’s written a wonderful book on IFS approaches to eating disorders, and Christina Björndahl will be there as well. We have also this year, so we have two CE tracks, and people can earn up to 40 CE credits, or I think f- either 40 or 45, I can’t remember.

But there’s a huge number of CE credits available this year. And then we also this year have sponsored speaker talks because we think that’s super important for companies and scientists to be able to feature their latest research, their latest supplements, their latest, uh, diagnostic tools. And there we have some fantast- you know, we have Craig Shimasaki from Moleculera, who does the Cunningham panel, which is the autoimmune panel.

We have Designs for Health and Oscar Coetzee, who’s going to be talking about their latest research. We have, I mean, we just have Pure Encapsulations and James Greenblatt. We have Debbie Hamilton from Nutramedix. We have some fantastic genetic talks from NBX. We have just some really wonderful both sponsored and non-sponsored talks with really the latest scientific research and the best clinical practice out there in integrative health.

So I’m really proud of this year’s program. I mean, we’ve had some wonderful programs, but I think this year is one of the most comprehensive, and we’re super excited about it. Awesome. Well, I know you pack a lot in. It’s four full days. San Diego’s a great spot, and I’m excited to, uh, support. If you’re listening to this, you know, whether you’re, you know, deep in mental health, you know, interested in cognitive decline, or even if you’re just, you know, delivering functional medicine and, uh, looking for deeper insights into what’s going on with every patient, I highly recommend it.

Kirkland, thank you so much for your leadership in this space and bringing together this conference. I’m so glad that there is

somewhere where you can come together to do that, and, uh, thanks so much for, uh, leading the charge. Thank you so much, James. Well, you do an amazing job in this space as well, and you have done so much to bring together and galvanize this whole world of functional medicine, so we owe you a big debt of gratitude.

And, uh, we know it’s hard work, but we really believe in where we’re going, and I think you and I share that vision of really trying to transform healthcare for, you know, a better world. So thank you. Thank you. Well, this has been The Evolution of Medicine podcast. I’ve been with the founder of, or the, uh, current executive director and leader of IMMH, uh, Kurtman Newman.

Thanks so much for tuning in, and we’ll see you next time. Thank you. So we are here asking practitioners about their practitioner journeys, and the reason why is because Journeys is a new product from Fullscript. Journeys allows you to set up your own lab offerings as the top of the funnel. Give the patients what they want.

They wanna know about themselves, and it’s the easiest way to bring them into your practice. We have all types of practices from across the country that are building their own unique lab panels for their own unique practices, selling them to their community, and acting as a great funnel into their practice.

This is a massive innovation. I think this will accelerate the evolution of medicine. You can go to goevomed.com/journeys to find out more. Set up your own journeys in half an hour, and transform the health of your community. Go get ’em. So that was the podcast. What an epic session. Thank you so much for tuning in to The Evolution of Medicine podcast.

We will be back again next week, and thanks so much for tuning in, and we’ll see you next time

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